We do not allow any pass/fail grades in our program. Mary Kientz, OTD, MS, OTR Associate Professor Occupational Therapy Program Director Stockton University 101 Vera King Farris Drive Galloway, NJ 08205 609-626-6843 Office: West Quad 213 ________________________________________ From: ot-pd@aotalists.org <ot-pd@aotalists.org> on behalf of AOTA ot-pd List <ot-pd@aotalists.org> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 7:46 AM To: ot-pd@aotalists.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [OT-PD List - AOTA] - number of pass/no pass courses you offer EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT: The sender is not using a Stockton email address. Please use caution. Good morning, All of our course grades are entered as a letter grade. Students using VA benefits are required to have a letter grade in all coursework. P/F coursework is not covered (except for during COVID-19 waivers). 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My work hours may not be your work hours. Should you receive this email from me during a time that you are engaging in any of the above, please do not feel obligated to respond. From: ot-pd@aotalists.org <ot-pd@aotalists.org> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 7:36 AM To: ot-pd@aotalists.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [OT-PD List - AOTA] - number of pass/no pass courses you offer The program I used to chair also changed the FW I to a grade for the same reasons Pam. I would be interested to understand what the reasoning is for having the option. Laurie Mouradian On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 7:30 AM AOTA ot-pd List <ot-pd@aotalists.org<mailto:ot-pd@aotalists.org>> wrote: Hello. We do not allow any courses to be Pass/Fail any longer. We used to have our Level I FW Seminar as a P/F, but with all of the actual didactic work vs. Level I FW time, it did not make sense that all of their coursework did not count toward their GPA. A lot of students complained that their hard work did not seemingly count for anything by being P/F unless they earned an F. The only "course" that remains P/F is Level II FW since there is no way to control or standardize the scores students receive from their Fieldwork Educators and provide an accurate correlation to a letter grade. At our institution, per policy across all levels of coursework, Pass does not have any effect on someone's GPA. I am aware that some schools automatically count a Pass as if it is an A, which I personally believe artificially inflates a student's GPA. I, too, am curious about the policies, along with the rationales, of other programs that do have P/F for more than Level II FW. Have an amazing day! --Pam Best regards, -- Dr. Pam Pamela Story, OTD, OTR/L, CPAM, CLIPPTM Director Division of Allied Health Program Director Graduate Occupational Therapy Program Office hours: Tuesday to Friday by appointment 845-848-6039 pamela.story@duny.edu<mailto:pamela.story@duny.edu> [cid:image001.png@01D939FE.CFFE0D70] Dominican University New York Orangeburg, NY 10962 www.duny.edu<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.duny.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmgronski%40methodist.edu%7C8c644164bcdc4bd5ff9408db083ed176%7C8b060f29a8874768ab6798eb9937fb04%7C1%7C0%7C638112838126231474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=6rbNLWKIX6JFLP%2BHEZCrtaCyGUNJXCnd0i%2B6I5ypsK4%3D&reserved=0> ________________________________ From: ot-pd@aotalists.org<mailto:ot-pd@aotalists.org> <ot-pd@aotalists.org<mailto:ot-pd@aotalists.org>> on behalf of AOTA ot-pd List <ot-pd@aotalists.org<mailto:ot-pd@aotalists.org>> Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 21:54 To: ot-pd@aotalists.org<mailto:ot-pd@aotalists.org> <ot-pd@aotalists.org<mailto:ot-pd@aotalists.org>> Subject: Re: [OT-PD List - AOTA] - number of pass/no pass courses you offer CAUTION: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click any links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hello Colleagues, We do not have an option for students to elect to take a class as pass or fail vs a grade. I am very interested in other programs' policies. I do not think our program will change to pass/fail soon as we require students to achieve an 83 on each assignment. I suppose an 83 would be a pass, and an 82 is a fail. I think potentially that a pass/fail score could lead some students not to work hard to get an A as it is not an option. So potentially less learning... or more. 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While we do have some pass/no pass labs for all students, we are exploring the possibility of allowing students to choose a pass/no pass option for some additional number of classes. Best, Kate Kate Hayner, EdD, OTR/L Professor and Chair Occupational Therapy Department Samuel Merritt University Cell: 415-244-5475 khayner@samuelmerritt.edu<mailto:khayner@samuelmerritt.edu> SMU - Internal Data -- Laurie Mouradian, ScD, ATR, OTR/L Professor Emeritus, School of Occupational Therapy Husson University Bangor, ME 04401 Pronouns: She, Her, Hers MouradianL@Husson.edu
